Nine Years Among the Indians, 1870-1879: The Story of the Captivity and Life of a Texan Among the Indians
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Nine Years Among the Indians, 1870-1879: The Story of the Captivity and Life of a Texan Among the Indians
Herman Lehmann
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Here is a genuine Little Big Man story, with all the color, sweep, and tragedy of a classic American western. It is the tale of Herman Lehmann, a captive of the Apaches on the Southern Plains of Texas and New Mexico during the 1870s. Adopted by a war chief, he was trained to be a warrior and waged merciless war on Apache enemies, both Indian and Euro-American. After killing an Apache medicine man in self-defense, he fled to a lonely hermitage on the Southern Plains until he joined the Comanches. Against his will, Lehmann was returned to his family in 1879. The final chapters relate his difficult readjustment to Anglo life.

LehmannÂ's unapologetic narrative is extraordinary for its warm embrace of Native Americans and stinging appraisal of Anglo society. Once started, the story of this remarkable man cannot be put down. Dale GieseÂ's introduction provides a framework for interpreting the Lehmann narrative.

It is the tale of Herman Lehmann, a captive of the Apaches on the Southern Plains of Texas and New Mexico during the 1870s.

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4 out of 5 stars good book in proper context.......2006-11-17

Fascinating read, yet must be read with the realization that this is a picture of a culture under intense (mostly wartime) stress and flux. The account happens at a time of major population incursions of whites into native lands and a time when native groups are being pushed into each other's subsistence territories by such incursions. It also occurs at a time when a number of destabilizing introductions (such as horses and guns) have recently come into native communities. Keep in mind that this picture of Apache & Comanche culture is about as reflective in the broader, overall sense as an German soldier's account of his life from 1916-1946 would be of overall German culture down through the ages. Read in proper historical context, this book is excellent. Read as a sweeping generalization of Apache life, it is bound to give a skewed impression.

5 out of 5 stars Right On.......2006-10-27

Herman Lehmann was a name mentioned a few times within my family as a boy growing up. Others were Korn, Fisher, etc. I was born in Texas. My Mother was Choctaw, born 1902, my father,1895, a descendent from hard core Texans that fought with Sam Houston. My Mother's people were moved from Mississippi to Oklahome where some reside today. I have read many stories concerning the lives of various tribes but I think Herman hits the nail on the head when it comes to the Apachie and Comanchie, however he does not speak for them all.In the seventies,I lived as a missionary among the Navaho and others. I found that each tribe place their values of life somewhat different.
Herman's life is interesting and educational. Several college professors have used his documented eventful life as source.
A good book, buy it!

5 out of 5 stars Important historical testimony.......2006-06-18

This book is a good antidote to the familiar modern view of all American Indians as proto-flower-children. The fact is that some tribes were not at all nice and, in fact, worked hard at deserving the term "savages." Unfortunately, the public is not encouraged to distinguish among tribes and cultures. There is gross irony in modern liberals and pacifists championing an idealized memory of thorough-going warrior cultures, in which the principal measure of one's stature was how many scalps hung from one's accoutrements.

2 out of 5 stars Interesting read but be careful.......2006-05-24

I finished the book in just a few days and was excited to begin reading after seeing the reviews on this sight. Shortly into the story I was bothered by some of the descriptions and terms that conflicted with all the other information I have come across regarding Apache life. I don't doubt that Mr. Lehmann was taken by and lived as an Apache or Comanche but some of the information he relates is inaccurate or too generalized in my opinion. I'm not trying to rehash history but it's important that the average reader not make an opinion on all Apache tribes with the decriptions that Mr. Lehmann relates.

He describes Geronimo as a "Chief" and if this was an opinion he based on his experiences within certain Apache bands,it is historically incorrect. He describes Indian Women as "Squaws" and Warriors or males as "Bucks." I doubt either of these terms would ever be used by an Apache to describe themselves. It has always been my understanding these terms were considered highly offensive by Native Americans which indicates to me Mr. Lehmann may be choosing these terms with resentment and it is not something he learned living among The People. My Great-Grandmother always said that Apaches didn't consume bear meat or dog meat as Mr. Lehmann described (as it was taboo.) Again, all Apache tribes were not of the same clan/band and or Tribe.

The book was faced paced but I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would. It's definately not a pretty picture and seemed to be told by a man more from bitterness than a man reminiscant of his one time family.

5 out of 5 stars Nine Years Among the Indians.......2006-03-14

A first rate true story of a young man's life among the Apaches and Comanches. A rare glimpse of how tough the life of an Indian was back in those days. If you enjoy history as told by one of the actual participants you will enjoy this book.
Adobe Walls
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5 out of 5 stars WOW!.......2006-03-06

The most in-depth look at the 1874 Adobe Walls post I have found, if you are interested in archaeology, and history of the buffalo hunters site, this is the book for you. The last 3/4 of the book deals with the arch. of the site. First quarter deals with the historical information. Photos of Billy Dixon, J. Wright Mooar, F. J. Leonard, and James N. Hanrahan (operator of the saloon at adobe walls) are included. Photos of many artifacts recovered during arch. excavations, include iron arrow points, grinding stones, iron tools, plate shards, buttons, etc. Great illustrations of the plan layout of the adobe walls site as it was in 1874, as determined by the arch. evidence, including perspective sketches of buildings, and the way each building was constructed. I have nothing but the highest praise for this book and commend the two authors for their publishing the book, as well as A&M press.
From Dominance to Disappearance: The Indians of Texas and the Near Southwest, 1786-1859
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    From Dominance to Disappearance: The Indians of Texas and the Near Southwest, 1786-1859
    F. Todd Smith
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    From Dominance to Disappearance is the first detailed history of the Indians of Texas and the Near Southwest from the late eighteenth to the middle nineteenth century, a period that began with Native peoples dominating the region and ended with their disappearance, after settlers forced the Indians in Texas to take refuge in Indian Territory.
    Drawing on a variety of published and unpublished sources in Spanish, French, and English, F. Todd Smith traces the differing histories of Texas’s Native peoples. He begins in 1786, when the Spaniards concluded treaties with the Comanches and the Wichitas, among others, and traces the relations between the Native peoples and the various Euroamerican groups in Texas and the Near Southwest, an area encompassing parts of Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, and Oklahoma. For the first half of this period, the Native peoples—including the Caddos, the Karankawas, the Tonkawas, the Lipan Apaches, and the Atakapas as well as emigrant groups such as the Cherokees and the Alabama-Coushattas—maintained a numerical superiority over the Euroamericans that allowed them to influence the region’s economic, military, and diplomatic affairs. After Texas declared its independence, however, the power of Native peoples in Texas declined dramatically, and along with it, their ability to survive in the face of overwhelming hostility. From Dominance to Disappearance illuminates a poorly understood chapter in the history of Texas and its indigenous people.
    Cynthia Ann Parker: The Life and the Legend (Southwestern Studies)
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    Although Cynthia Ann Parker never recounted her experiences as a captive of the Comanches (1836-60), her story is probably the most familiar of all the pioneer women captured by Indians in the Southwest. Margaret Hacker's five years of research have produced a balanced and dependable account of this tragic story.

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    5 out of 5 stars Cynthia Ann Parker: The Life and the Legend.......2007-09-01

    I suggest reading this book before reading "Ride the Wind". It serves as a chronicalled historical foundation before reading the novel "Ride the Wind" that will definitely prepare you for an unimaginable journey into the world of the American Indian of 150 years ago.

    4 out of 5 stars Straight-forward, focused, no frills or detours.......2002-05-30

    This is a compact history ... but it does just what you want - gives what history is known of Cynthia Ann Parker. This is an excellent resource if you are wanting to know about Cynthia Ann Parker from the settler's perspective - the people she left behind, the family she had come from, and the search for her that continued throughout her 'captivity'. The author seems to steer clear of any area of conjecture, such as why Cynthia Ann got shuttled between family members after her return or what may have happened to her pension, and sticks only to documentable history. She also avoided sidetracking into the history of Cynthia Ann's famous son or the other people in her life except for as far as they pertain to Cynthia Ann's life. Focus is very tight, very informative.

    5 out of 5 stars The West's Most Famous Indian Captive.......2001-06-12

    On May 19th, 1836 nine-year-old Cynthia Ann Parker, a member of a group of religious families occupying Fort Parker in Texas, witnessed the massacre of friends and relatives by combined bands of Caddos, Kiowas and Comanche warriors. Abducted by the Comanches, Cynthia was raised for the next 25 years as a tribal member and became "fully" Comanche, giving birth to Quanah Parker, the last Comanche Chief and one of the most influential intermediaries of his time, a representative of both the Native American and White cultures. Abducted a second time as an adult by a well-meaning Texas Ranger, Cynthia Ann was forced to return to White society, but mourned deeply for her Comanche family, ultimately starving herself to death out of grief.

    Much lore and legend has grown around the story of Cynthia Ann Parker over the years, and it has often been difficult to separate the myth from the reality of her dramatic story. However, Margaret Schmidt Hacker has done just that. Over a period of five years, Ms. Hacker painstakingly researched the archives in Texas, Oklahoma, California and Washington, D.C. and objectively weighed all the accounts of Cynthia Ann's life. The result of her efforts is what is considered the most authoritative book on the subject. Although scholarly, it is at the same time, a gripping drama of the Texas prairies, and very readable by anyone with an interest in the Old West. Highly recommended reading.

    5 out of 5 stars Examining the Myth.......1999-10-15

    Countless folk tales and sagas have focused on the story of Miss Parker, a captive of the Comanches for more than 15 years. Many of them deal only with her years as the mother of the famous Quanah Parker. Author Margaret Schmidt Hacker devoted five years to researching the life of the Cynthia Ann to reveal the history behind the myth. This is the tragic story of the abduction of a nine year old girl who returned reluctantly to white society when she was 24. A fascinating portrait of her life among the Comanches on the Texas frontier.
    The First Fire: Stories of the Cherokee, Kickapoo, Kiowa, and Tigua
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    The colorful pageantry of four powerful nations come alinve in Jane Archer's vivid narration of myth and history.

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    5 out of 5 stars The First Fire: Stories of the Cherokee, Kickapoo, Kiowa, and Tigua.......2006-07-19

    Excellent writing. The stories immediately draw you in. The historical information about the tribes is also very beneficial to the book. This is a good read for educators and personal gain.

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    5 out of 5 stars Essential Native American Storytelling Resource .......2005-05-22

    Jane Archer has done it again. I thought her first volume of Native American stories, TEXAS INDIAN MYTHS AND LEGENDS, could not be topped for making the stories of various Native Nations come alive while also telling their history in clear and concise prose. I was not the only one who felt that way, because I have learned that stories from that book were used in a permanent American Indian Storytellers exhibit in the Frontier Texas museum in Abeline, Texas. She has now written a companion volume, FIRST FIRE, that equals or even surpasses her first book on this subject. Her skills as an experienced novelist are the secret ingredient to her success at making these timeless tales come alive. She shows her deep respect for her own part Native American heritage and all of America's indigenous people in every line, every story, every historical excursion. Obviously I am extremely enthused about this book and its companion volume. Read them and see why. Highly recommended!
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      The Tiguas: Pueblo Indians of Texas
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        Abilene photographer Bill Wright worked among and studied the Tigua Indians of Ysleta, Texas, for more than six years, making his own distinguished images and collecting documentary photographs of the tribe from among the Tigua themselves and from sources across the United States. His research in their history, his interviews with Tigua leaders, tribal members, and his magnificent collection of photographs, rare historical pictures and his own incomparable contemporary images, combine to make a unique modern study of these, the oldest Texans. Included is an extensive bibliography of sources and a list of Tigua tribal officers and members.
        The Texas Indians (Centennial Series of the Association of Former Students, Texas a & M University)
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        During an excavation in the 1950s, archaeologists discovered the bones of a prehistoric woman in Midland County, Texas, and dubbed her "Midland Minnie." Some believed her age to be between twenty thousand and thirty-seven thousand years, making her remains the oldest ever found in the Western Hemisphere. While the accuracy of these dates remains disputed, the find, along with countless others, demonstrates the wealth of human history that is buried beneath Texas soil.

        By the time the Europeans arrived in Texas in 1528, Native Texans included the mound-building Caddos of East Texas; the Karankawas and Atakapas who fished the Texas coast; the town-dwelling Jumanos along the Rio Grande; the hunting-gathering Coahuiltecans in South Texas; and the corn-growing Wichitas in the Panhandle. All of these native peoples had developed structures, traditions, governments, religions, and economies enabling them to take advantage of the land's many resources. When the Europeans arrived, they brought horses, metal tools and weapons, new diseases, and new ideas, all of which began to reshape the lives of Texas Indians.

        Over time, Texas became home to horse-mounted, buffalo-hunting Apaches, Comanches, and Kiowas and a refuge for Puebloan Tiguas, Alabama-Coushattas, Kickapoos, and many others. These groups traded, shared ideas, fought, and made peace with one another as well as with peoples outside of Texas. This book tells the story of all of these groups, their societies and cultures, and how they changed over the years.

        Author David La Vere offers a complete chronological and cultural history of Texas Indians from twelve thousand years ago to the present day. He presents a unique view of their cultural history before and after European arrival, examining Indian interactions-both peaceful and violent-with Europeans, Mexicans, Texans, and Americans.

        This book is the first full examination of the history of Texas Indians in more than forty years.

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        5 out of 5 stars A welcome addition to Native American Studies shelves.......2004-05-16

        Written by history professor David La Vere (who has been specifically honored for his writings on Native Americans), The Texas Indians is a comprehensive history of the native people who lived in during the past twelve thousand years in what is today called Texas. The time span and comprehensive coverage ranges from the earliest prehistoric remains found, to a wide variety of Native American tribes (including the mound-building Caddos, the Karankawas and Atakapas who fished along the coast, town-dwelling Jumanos, and more) whose lives, cultures, and societies were thrown into tremendous upheaval with the coming of European colonizers in the 1500's. Apaches, Comanches, Kiowas, Puebloan Tiguas, and many others would in time come to know Texas as home as well, whether seeking refuge or simply coming to embrace the land. A welcome addition to Native American Studies shelves, The Texas Indians presents a simply fascinating and informative interplay of societies and cultures, and is written for non-specialist general readers and Native American History students alike.
        The Lady in the Blue Cloak: Legends from the Texas Missions
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        The Lady in the Blue Cloak: Legends from the Texas Missions
        Eric A. Kimmel
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        ASIN: 0823417387

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        For each Texas mission, there is a rich and complicated history. In the title story, from Mision de San Francisco de los Tejas, a mysterious woman in blue visits the Teas people to prepare them for the missionaries' arrival. In "Rosa's Window" and "The Bell" the love and grief of two couples torn apart in the making of the Mision de San Jose y San Miguel de Aguayo manifest themselves in the very edifices of the mission. The Mision de Nuestra SEnora de la Purisma Concepcion de Acuna, named for and dedicated to the Blessed Virgin Mary, was the scene of a remarkable salvation as the Teas workers tried to escape the heated pursuit of the Comanches in "The Miracle at the Gate." Here Kimmel gracefully retells these and other powerful legends behind four of th missions, each enhanced by a beautifully evocative painting by Susan Guevara.

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        4 out of 5 stars Older Children Will Enjoy this History.......2007-06-22

        Written for a slightly older reader, ages 6 to 10, "The Lady in the Blue Cloak: Legends from the Texas Missions" contains six chapters and many more words than pictures. Based on truth as well as legend, this book contains a bit of violence and a couple of ghosts. A story set at the East Texas mission San Francisco de los Tejas in Nacogdoches opens the book. Other chapters center around the San Antonio missions San Jose y San Miguel de Aguayo with it's Rosa's Window, Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception of Acuna, and the Mission of San Antonio de Valero, now called the Alamo. At the back of the book is a Texas Missions Time Line.

        I liked that the author never condescends to his young audience. He strives to entertain but also engages the reader intellectually. The drawings and illustrations are visually stimulating, and in some cases, downright breathtaking.
        The Caddo Indians: Tribes at the Convergence of Empires, 1542-1854 (Centennial Series of the Association of Former Students, Texas a & M University)
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        The Caddo Indians: Tribes at the Convergence of Empires, 1542-1854 (Centennial Series of the Association of Former Students, Texas a & M University)
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        5 out of 5 stars Another Sad Chapter.......2004-07-07

        My interest in the Caddo Indians stems from having worked in the area formerly controlled by the tribe. From Nacogdoches to Natchitoches, on northward into present-day southeastern Oklahoma and southwestern Arkansas, the Caddo and related tribes once controlled a vast area and were by all accounts well-organized, fairly disciplined, and relatively settled in relation to the nomadic tribes of the plains.
        The Caddo Indians: Tribes At the Convergence of Empires 1542-1854 is the story of how a people who from the beginning strove to maintain peaceful and profitable relations with the white settlers fell victim to disease, alcohol and the duplicity of many of those whom they trusted. But it is also the tale of bravery, perseverance and unity in the face of all the forces of history that conspired against them.
        The reader will see how the accidents of geography and the vagaries of events beyond the control of the Caddo nations brought them down from a tribe numbering in the hundreds of thousands, to a rump nation of just a couple hundred members today whose headquarters now sits on a meagre 37 acres in Oklahoma. You will meet good men and scoundrels on both sides and you will see how the scoundrels among the white nations (Spain, then Mexico, Texas and then the United States) eventually gained the upper hand. Of the white colonists who dealt with the Caddo tribes over the centuries, only the French come away largely free of the stench of dishonor.
        The story of the Caddo Nation is yet another sad chapter in the history of Euro-American interaction with the Native peoples. It is doubly sad for the Caddo tribes as they took an actively friendly stance from the start.
        I recommend this book to anyone interested in history as it pertains to the Indians. F. Todd Smith gives the reader a fine, easy reading overview of an important but overlooked tribe and a little-known era in what was then a remote section of the frontier.

        5 out of 5 stars History, Baseball & Beer.......2000-06-15

        If there is just one book you buy this year on the Caddo Indians, let it be this one. This is a book for scholars. But it is also a book for the armchair history buff. Smith writes in a palatable style. In the end, it is the natural narrative that carries the story. This part of American history is missed in most public education. Sit back with a cold one and this book. I did.

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